Adrian Fenty and the pretty lie of human neurological uniformity

Adrian Fenty just lost the Democratic Primary (i.e. the election) for Mayor of DC.

I’ve written about Fenty before. I have no dog in this fight – I don’t believe in democracy so I don’t vote and I don’t think that any politician can stop the gentrification of DC at this point. The election is only interesting because of DC’s changing racial populations. Some time in the next 10-15, at current trends, DC will stop being a majority black city. Gentrification has been happening at an incredible rate.

DC has done very well under Fenty’s tenure. However, the increasing gentrification is not sitting well with the black population. On one hand, this is understandable if one assumes that blacks like to live close to other blacks. Historically black neighborhoods are becoming increasingly white and too expensive for blacks to buy houses in. On the other hand, the increasing gentrification has benefited blacks most of all. Many blacks own homes that have risen in value by hundreds of percents in the last decade. The schools are now tolerable and crime has decreased substantially.

So, this election gives us a chance to see what blacks in DC want. Do they want crime, intolerable schools, burned out neighborhoods that have been stagnant for decades and black neighbors or do they want safe streets, decent educations, increased economic opportunity and more white neighbors? A vote for Gray became a vote for the former and a vote for Fenty became a vote for the latter.

The reality of these positive changes in DC is that they have coincided with increases in DC’s white population. Unfortunately, we’re not supposed to talk about the fact that DC’s problems were largely caused by the fact that so many of its residents were black. We’re supposed to believe that the right "policies" would have solved DC’s problems. The make up of DC’s population is supposed to be irrelevant. In other words, we’re supposed to believe in human neurological uniformity.

As the Washington Post put it: "Don’t ask Fenty or Rhee whom this world-class school system will serve if low-income black residents are being evicted from his world-class city in droves."

Don’t ask the Washington Post how you’re supposed to improve schools when the average student’s IQ is barely above 80, they have no father and their neighborhood is full of crime.

Anyway, we have our answer from DC’s black population: Fenty lost.

What does this mean?

I’m not really sure.

To me, it seems that the evidence suggests that blacks don’t really want solutions to things that white people tacitly consider "black problems." Maybe they all quietly believe in HBD.

Anway, the lesson for black politicians across the country should be clear: if you want to be a successful politician in a largely black area, do not – by any means – attempt to actually solve any problems for your constituents.

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41 Responses to Adrian Fenty and the pretty lie of human neurological uniformity

  1. theobsidianfiles says:

    Hi Foseti,
    Once again(!) you discuss a topic you have very little actual understanding of.

    For example, how many Black DC residents-from say, Gray’s district-have you actually talked to? Perhaps if you actually did a bit of research on this note, you’d discover, as Sailer points out over at his blog the other day, that Fenty wasn’t liked by Blacks for many other reasons than bringing rich SWPL folk back to DC. Fenty was seen as arrogant and dismissive, and had some ethical question swirling about his administration as well, to name just a few things.

    Secondly, your notion that Black=no civilization is ridiculous. A simple trip over to Prince George’s County counters that. Try it with your friends!

    Holla back

    O.

    • Foseti says:

      I’m not sure you know what you’re talking about better than I do.

      It would take some serious balls for blacks in DC to throw out Fenty for being corrupt and dismissive of criticism after they tolerated *Marion Barry * for years!

      I’ve been to PG county a few times. I’m not really sure you want to use that as a counter example. As DC gentrifies, PG county seems to regress.

  2. theobsidianfiles says:

    Foseti,
    I don’t think anyone would argue that PGC and DC, at the latter’s height as having the dubious distinction as “the murder capital of the nation”, were one and the same. Would you?

    Again: read what Sailer had to say about the election, he has up two posts on it.

    And yes, I remember Barry quite well. Are you attempting to suggest that the coddling of corrupt or otherwise perfidious politicians is a “Black” thing? Because if you do, perhaps the name David Vitter sounds familiar to you?

    O.

    • Foseti says:

      I’m not suggesting anything about corruption or perfidiousness. You brought them up. I’m merely saying that suggesting that Fenty was thrown out by the DC electorate for those reasons is absurd in light of DC’s recent political history.

      I did read Sailer’s articles.

      Let’s say that I’m suggesting that conditions in PG county will worsen as DC gentrifies. We’ll see if I’m right over the course of the next decade.

  3. theobsidianfiles says:

    Foseti,
    Merely YOU disagree with the Black voting public’s views and decisions wrt Fenty, dosnt mean that its ridiculous. Moreover, don’t poorer Black folk have the right to vote in their own interests? If Whites do come and gentrify DC, where are these people supposed to go? Surely, you couldn’t care less, as I find that you tend to nuture an utter lack of empathy for just about anyone.

    As for PGC, I would say that as the poorer Blacks move there, assuming that happens, that yes, crime levels are likelt to go up. In America, crime and poverty tend to be correlated.

    Again, I find it fascinating that you can talk so authoritatively about a topic you know so little about firsthand. Instead of making mealy mouthed excuses, try actually taking yourself into Black DC and talking to people as to why they do what they do. Stop being a wuss, Man!

    O.

    • Foseti says:

      Ok – you’re clearly only interested in caricaturizing my views at this point. For example how are crappy schools and high levels of crime in the interest of poor black folks?

      So, instead what does the DC election mean, in your opinion?

      I live in a neighborhood that is more than 50% black and yet you don’t think I know anything about black people! I have no idea what you want me to do at this point to get myself “into Black DC.”

  4. theobsidianfiles says:

    Foseti,
    Why don’t you try TALKING TO THE PEOPLE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. How many of them have you had dinner with-in their homes? One? Five? Ten? How many of them have you talked to about the elections?

    I see the DC elections as the way democracy can and should work-that the People will decide what is in their best interests.

    Speaking of which, no, crappy schools and crime aren’t in the Black DC residents’ best intrests, but nor is having a mayor who alienates large swaths of his electorate, either. Somehow, I don’t think you can believe in the idea that it is possible to have both, good schools, lowered crime, affordable housing and a mayor who isint a jerk JUST to poor Black folk. If Fenty gave White folk who matter 1/4 of the agita he gave poor Black folk we’d never hear the end of it, and you know it.

    Holla back

    O.

    • Foseti says:

      You finally hit the fundamental question: is it possible to have better schools and lower crime and a mayor who isn’t *perceived* as being a jerk to black people?

      HBD would suggest that the answer is “no.” So would the DC election results.

      That’s my point. Thanks for clarifying it.

  5. theobsidianfiles says:

    Yea but Foseti, you don’t know that for sure, because you haven’t even talked to the Black people, who are presumably at last nominally middle class, right in your neighborhood, let alone the poorer parts of Black DC. Instead, your quite content to go by what your sliderule says.

    Why are you so deathly afraid to talk to Black people, face to face? Again: how many Black folks in your hood have you actually talked to round the dinner table with? One? Four? A dozen? What?

    O.

    • Foseti says:

      I speak to multiple black people everyday. It would be impossible for me not to.

      I’ve talked with some about the election. Most make the same statements that you make: “Fenty is a jerk.” Not to black people, but just generally.

      In politics, the stupidest, most amateurish mistake to make is to actually believe what people say. I therefore don’t place a lot of weight on statements like those.

      If the Mayor was an asshole but everyone loved what he was doing, he would get re-elected easily. See: Rudy Giuliani.

      I’ve had dinner with maybe 3 black families (not counting inter-racial couples) – we’re talking bbq’s in the yard variety. I’m not sure why this matters.

  6. theobsidianfiles says:

    Also, Foseti,
    Exactly why would HBD suggests that it is not possible for a Black mayor to not be a jerk to Black people? Please explain?

    O.

    • Foseti says:

      As I say in the post, reducing crime and improving schools in DC requires increasing the number of non-blacks in the neighborhoods and schools, respectively. (You could probably come up with non-HBD reasons for this, but I prefer the HBD ones).

      However, blacks seem to perceive a Mayor who increases the number of non-blacks as being a jerk to black people. (Especially the poor. The world is improving in DC, and the poor are hardest hit. Also, the children. The children and the poor. Repeat.)

      Hence, the problem is insoluble or requires jerkiness.

  7. theobsidianfiles says:

    Foseti,
    Replies below:

    F: I speak to multiple black people everyday. It would be impossible for me not to.

    O: Please define “multiple”?

    F: I’ve talked with some about the election. Most make the same statements that you make: “Fenty is a jerk.” Not to black people, but just generally.

    O: Please define “some”? How many is that? And, is it possible that those Black who called Fenty a jerk, had legitimate reasons for saying so?

    F: In politics, the stupidest, most amateurish mistake to make is to actually believe what people say. I therefore don’t place a lot of weight on statements like those.

    O: Tru dat. No doubt you’ve heard of the Bradley Effect…

    F: If the Mayor was an asshole but everyone loved what he was doing, he would get re-elected easily. See: Rudy Giuliani.

    O: Fenty is no Rudy. For one thing, he couldn’t get reelected.

    F: I’ve had dinner with maybe 3 black families (not counting inter-racial couples) – we’re talking bbq’s in the yard variety. I’m not sure why this matters.

    O: Because its Politics 101 to actually talk to people to get a sense of what they think and feel about the issues. That’s why. See: Frank Luntz.

    Holla back

    O.

    • Foseti says:

      Ok, Obsidian, since yesterday afternoon, I’ve carefully noted who I talked to and I have answers.

      But, before I provide them, I’d like to know how many people of various races I need to talk to in a given day to make me not “ignorant” in your opinion.

      At this point, it’s pretty clear that regardless of how much exposure I have to black people, you’re going to say that I’m ignorant, so I think you should put down your requirements – as arbiter or knowledge – first.

  8. theobsidianfiles says:

    Foseti,
    Replies below:

    F: As I say in the post, reducing crime and improving schools in DC requires increasing the number of non-blacks in the neighborhoods and schools, respectively. (You could probably come up with non-HBD reasons for this, but I prefer the HBD ones).

    O: No, reducing crime and improving schools in ANY city requires locking up offenders and removing the beaurocratic deadwood that is the teacher’s unions and educational infrastructure, removing PC conventions such as feminized schools, bring back separate sex schooling, bringing in more Male teachers, and sticking to things that actually work to make productive citizens. You don’t need to swap out one race of people for another to do this, and HBD is a very lazy way of solving problems. You prefer the HBD ones because you’re a racist, you’re just not ballsy enough to say so.

    F: However, blacks seem to perceive a Mayor who increases the number of non-blacks as being a jerk to black people. (Especially the poor. The world is improving in DC, and the poor are hardest hit. Also, the children. The children and the poor. Repeat.)

    O: Yes, that’s right, just like he reverse would be true if it were White voting folk involved. The problem you seem to be having is that it is indeed possible to be Black and not be a criminal or a reform school candidate.

    F: Hence, the problem is insoluble or requires jerkiness.

    O: Wrong. One can fix problems without being an alienating jerk who in the end, doesn’t actually do that which his constituency wants him to. Black DCers didn’t vote Fenty in to be displaced by White folk.

    Holla back

    O.

    • Red says:

      It took me a long time to understand Obs. He’s really a racist black supremacist. He harps on the HBD people because it mirrors his own beliefs about whites. He’s always making BS arguments and baiting people because he’s got even less evidence than the HBD crowd does(Which is a bit thin itself). He’ll defend any dumb black action to the hilt simply because it’s done by a black person.

  9. theobsidianfiles says:

    Red,
    LOL. So now I’m a “Black supremacist”, huh? Alright then:

    PROVE IT.

    Go and find just ONE direct quote by me, with attendant weblinks, where I say that Black people are superior to White people? You see, this is what the HBDers say- that Black folk are in fact, inferior to Whites. Foseti says this in a roundabout way, he just doesn’t have the balls to say it outright, and neither do the HBD crowd. By their very nature, they tend to be cowards.

    What you don’t like, Red, is that I am on the case wrt showing up just how flimsy the HBD “science” and “evidence” truly is.

    Looking forward to seeing those direct quotes…

    O.

  10. […] a D.C. resident, offers his take on the situation: DC has done very well under Fenty’s tenure. However, the increasing gentrification is not […]

  11. theobsidianfiles says:

    Foseti,
    I would say, to simply follow the model politicians and those who study it do:

    Talk to lots of the people you’re interested in writing about. Hundreds, if not thousands.

    That’s what I did in my days as a salesman. I had to get the feel of the public I was looking to sell my wares/products/services to, and though we now have all manner of statistical models and the like, I’ve found that nothing beats that belly to belly intereaction and give and take out on the block that really gives one an understanding of what’s going on out there. It’s really as simple as that.

    So, I say to you, that if you want to discuss the comings and goings on wrt poorer Black DC and the recent elections, it might be a good idea for you to actually pound some pavement there, and talk to those who were impacted. You can start with Gray’s councilatic district.

    O.

  12. theobsidianfiles says:

    Scott,
    Really? How so? Please explain?

    O.

    • ScottS says:

      HBD – facts:
      White populations have average IQs higher than black populations. Our public policy decisions should keep this in mind.

      You – value judgement:
      ZOMG That’s horrible! The only possible reason for having such a belief is that you secretly hate black people!

  13. Jehu says:

    Obsidian isn’t a black supremacist, he’s a black racialist in the same sense that I’m a white racialist. We favor our own people not because we think they’re supreme (objectively, other races have higher and lower distributions of various characteristics) but because they are ours, in the sense of a massively extended family, and because we recognize that social status and hegemony is a team sport. He’s no more evil for being a partisan of his race than I am for being a partisan of my own.

  14. theobsidianfiles says:

    Jehu,
    I wouldn’t consider myself a “Black racialist” in the sense a White racialist would see himself. My primary concern is with the welfare of American citizens, and try to approach things from that angle and within that framework. My views concerning illegal immigration, for example, would be the same for folk coming from Kenya or Nigeria just as they would be from Mexico or Belize. It’s the principle that matters to me, not the skin color. In matters of public policy, this is what I try to do. With varying degrees of success. 😉

    O.

  15. theobsidianfiles says:

    Hi Joe,
    What makes you boring is the fact that no one even bothers to comment on your blog. Thanks for fixing the link though; I took a peek the other night. 🙂

    O.

  16. and the title: “rough drafts”

  17. theobsidianfiles says:

    I did. *shrugs* I got more comments on my first day than you have, thus far.

    Try again.

    O.

  18. Then you were leveraging something.

    The purpose of the rough drafts blog is simply to facilitate my idea generation, with no regard for editing, completeness, reader comprehension or even accuracy.

    The fewer people that read it, the better, because its full of errors and embarrassing unnecessary honesty. I keep it public to force greater and higher quality output, not to generate an audience.

    Obviously I intend to launch edited niche blogs later. For those, yes, comments would be somewhat important. But I would never find your style of meandering, pointless conversation productive, even though it results in a higher comment count.

  19. theobsidianfiles says:

    Hi Joe,
    Yea, whatever, Man. When you start blogging for real and you want to actually engage me, lemme know. I’ll hop over, checkout your comment rate, and if I think it’s worth my time, I’ll hop right in.

    O.

    • I don’t want you for a commenter because you’re an idiot. I gave you the pieces of the puzzle you needed to fix your worldview, and you show no signs of having availed yourself.

      The fact that you judge idea quality by comment count is more evidence that your intelligence descends to the lowest common denominator.

  20. theobsidianfiles says:

    Foseti and Joe Dante: Solipsism anyone?

    LOL

    O.

  21. theobsidianfiles says:

    Hi Joe,
    Just so we’re clear, it was you who invited me to your no account blog. Let me know when it gets up and running…

    O.

  22. theobsidianfiles says:

    Joe,
    Funny indeed, since you had posted the very same thing here at Foseti’s blog. I didn’t need to go over to your blog merely to read what you said, I got the gist of what you had to say here.

    At any rate, lemme know when you finally get yourself together, and we’ll talk…

    O.

  23. That’s retarded. It was clearly different.

    As for you getting the gist, I could care less. My concern was again to clearly express my ideas. The possibility of an audience was a useful stimulus, nothing more.

    The only reason I continued the exchange was I had food poisoning from a poorly prepared fish, and needed to mindlessly fill many hours.

  24. theobsidianfiles says:

    Good morning Joe,
    Ahhh, so blame it on the fish now? LMAO!!! Get therapy.

    And learn how to fix fish first, before you go running off at the mouth about stuff you know nothing of…

    O.

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