Do elites like America?

Charles Murray has a piece on the New Elite, in which he says:

The members of the New Elite may love America, but, increasingly, they are not of it.

He’s been taking some fire for saying that the New Elite loves America. As it happens, I think he is correct. (Poor Charles Murray, no matter how much he tries to emphasize his real argument – the sorting of the country by intelligence – everyone always pays attention to some other point that he makes).

The New Elite are the modern incarnation of a certain type of American that has been around since the founding.

We tend to think of America the way Roissy describes it today, while discussing a Little League game in which it is forbidden to keep score:

Our country is being assaulted by a new elite of SWPLs who disrespect, even loathe, American tradition and historical precedence, and deny differences between boys and girls.

Unfortunately, America has always had a contingent of people who deny differences between boys and girls, who will stop at nothing to end "injustices," and who believe they have been divinely endowed to determine who is right and who is wrong.

Since before America was America, it was settled by people hoping to create the kingdom of heaven on earth. For these people, the creation of this kingdom has always been what America is about. Thus it’s possible for the New Elites to love America (as they understand it) and want to destroy America as we know it (i.e. as we distinctly understand it).

After all, in the defense of the New Elites, there aren’t many things more American than abolitionism (many of the abolitionists believed that marriage was an institution of slavery), utopian socialism, protestant idealism, and 60s radicalism.

Those of us that oppose this sort of thinking do ourselves no favors when we pretend that the belief system we oppose is foreign to America.

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4 Responses to Do elites like America?

  1. icr says:

    After all, in the defense of the New Elites, there aren’t many things more American than abolitionism (many of the abolitionists believed that marriage was an institution of slavery), utopian socialism, protestant idealism, and 60s radicalism.

    The 60’s radicals were very disproportionately Jewish.
    Are you saying that left-wing Jews in the 60’s were somehow far more Protestant than the Protestants?

    This guy has copied the following material from Rothman and Lichter’s “Roots of Radicalism: Jews, Christians, and the Left”:
    (…)
    To begin with, Americans of Jewish background were disproportionately represented among the leadership and cadres of the Movement until the mid–1960’s. At the time they constituted under 3 percent of the population of the United States, and about 10 percent of the students at colleges and universities. Yet, they provided a majority of its most active members and perhaps even a larger proportion of its top leadership. They also provided a very significant proportion of the intellectual community’s most vocal supporters of the student movement.

    Many of these young people came from liberal or radical families. Some of their parents had been quite active on the Left during the 1930’s but later toned down their political activities while retaining their basic value orientations. As early as the 1962 Washington peace demonstration, students of Jewish background constituted over 40 percent of those participants whose religious back-ground could be identified. [Frederick Solomon and Jacob R. Fishman, “Youth and Peace: A Psychosocial Study of Student Peace Demonstrators in Washington, D.C.,” Journal of Social Issues 20 (Oct. 1964): 54-73.]
    (…)
    Sixty-three percent of the Chicago radicals studied by Flacks and his associates were of Jewish background. [See Richard Flacks, “The Liberated Generation: An Exploration of the Roots of Student Protest,” Journal of Social Issues 23 (July 1967): 52-75.]

    Similarly, in Richard Braungart’s 1966 survey of leading SDS activists, 60 percent of those whose religious background could be identified were Jewish. [Richard Braungart, “Status Politics and Student Politics,” Youth and Society 3 (Dec. 1971): 195-208.]
    (…)
    Nationwide, a 1970 Harris survey reported that 23 percent of all Jewish college students termed themselves “far left,” compared to only 4 percent of Protestant students and 2 percent of Catholics. [S. M. Lipset, Rebellion in the University (Boston: Little, Brown, 1972), p.86.]
    (…)
    Among non-Jewish radicals the pattern was rather different. Many came from quite conservative families, against whom they were in sharp rebellion. [Sale, SDS, p. 204ff.; Milton Mankoff and Richard Flacks, “The Changing Social Base of the Student Movement,” in Philip G. Aitbach and Robert S. Laufer, The New Pilgrims (New York: David McKay, 1972), pp.46-62.]
    (…)

    • Foseti says:

      I’m saying that most of the people in the ’60s that were in SDS would have supported the Protestant bishops’ statement from the ’40s. Many would have supported the views in the statement before they kept kosher, for example.

  2. JD says:

    Thus it’s possible for the New Elites to love America (as they understand it) and want to destroy America as we know it (i.e. as we distinctly understand it).

    Exactly right. They love their loony conception of what America should be, however little that conception corresponds to reality. In short, SWPLs live in a perpetual fairytale land, and generally have very little to do with their Orc clients that they champion in order to feel superior to whites who have a very different conception about what America was and should be. Soon enough their clients will outnumber them and take over the Democratic party, and our heroic SWPLs will be shocked (shocked!) to find that their clients don’t really share their liberal fantasies after all, and are not much grateful to them, but were just using the suckers to enact policies that benefited them. When they have the numbers, they’ll have no use for SWPLs at all. They can enact their own extortion policies.

    Those of us that oppose this sort of thinking do ourselves no favors when we pretend that the belief system we oppose is foreign to America.

    I don’t know of many in these (HBD) precincts who have many delusions about who and what we are opposing. The Tea Partiers and bulk of the Republican party might well be clueless though, or at least they pretend to be.

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