I agree with what both of them wrote, though I think I sympathize more with (what I take to be) Charlton’s point. I’m not sure how you bring about "what we want" without a mass movement. I’m also not sure how to have a mass movement without some religious basis (appealing to the masses is hard unless you have some religious basis). I also find that I prefer religious societies and religious people to "non-religious" societies and people.
1. What do you want? And what do you not want?
Is your list any more than a mere wish list? If so, what binds-together these core values and necessary exclusions?
I want order, justice and peace, which I take to be synonymous. I want to be able to visit any section of any city at any time of day without being robbed or attacked, for example. I want less chaos.
I don’t see this list as any more of a "wish list" than what religious conservatives want.
Civilization is the process of imposing order on chaos and disorder. I favor more civilization and therefore less chaos.
2. Having listed these requirements, is it possible to sustain a society which gives you what you want, and not what you do not want? What are the mechanisms by which your ideal society would be maintained? Are they plausible? Are they strong enough?
Sure. Take Singapore. It’s a lot closer to my ideal than the current American form of government. It exists – it’s therefore possible to get a whole lot better.
3. How would your ideal society stop itself recapitulating the course of all existing Western societies?
In other words, what is to prevent the re-emergence of radicalism, communism, socialism and political correctness? – in other words, what is to prevent the return of that suicidal embrace of active self-destruction which prevailed in all Western societies, at more or less the same time, apparently independently.
I don’t know. Nothing seems to be able to resist progressivism for long.
Christianity was paramount for a while and it lost – I take it to be a dead end.
4. In such a society as you conceive, what will motivate people? And are these motivations plausibly strong enough to resist relentless, implacable and dedicated foes who cannot be convinced of the virtues of your favoured society and who are prepared to sacrifice pleasure, experience pain, and even willingly to die to get what they want?
In my ideal society, orderliness will directly provide a financial benefit to wealth-producing citizens. The more order there is, the more the wealth-producing citizens will benefit. What could possibly motivate people more?