The rise of Asia and the death of the American ideal

The modern American ideal is multiculturalism. I’ve been watching some children’s programs with my son lately, and children’s programming is indistinguishable from multicultural propaganda. Other ideals come through, but not with the same force as multiculturalism.

This aggressive stance on multiculturalism is peaking at a time when it appears that US will be overtaken by East Asia.

Interestingly, East Asians are the low man on the multicultural totem pole. They’re anti-diverse (see e.g. affirmative action, for example).

Is the rise of Asia incompatible with multiculturalism? Or will Asians be co-opted by a system that places them at the bottom? Somehow, I’m betting on the former.

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8 Responses to The rise of Asia and the death of the American ideal

  1. Hail says:

    The two are not unrelated phenomena.

    The Rise of the Orient has, in a sense, depended upon the rise of “Multicultacracy” in the USA.

    In this sense, I think that sharp East-Asian elites in East-Asia would defend Multicultacracy in the West. East-Asians in the USA are a different matter, though will probably still be mostly-animated by the aforementioned understanding.

  2. rightsaidfred says:

    Is what our Saturday cartoons push really multi-culturalism? Seems more like cultural mixing with one culture crushing and removing the other.

    • Samson J. says:

      Is what our Saturday cartoons push really multi-culturalism?

      I don’t know. I think sometimes it is. We try and watch a lot of older kids’ shows on DVD instead of newer stuff, and there is a definite distinction between them and today’s shows. Not just in terms of multiculturalism, though; there are other noticeable differences that I think reflect societal changes. For instance, many times older shows will feature slow, reflective segments, whereas today’s shows are high-energy and shallow. This may not mean much to you without examples.

  3. AC says:

    As a nationalistic East Asian living in the West, I hope this is the case. I have some affection for the old values of the West, but little sympathy for the current ruling classes, whom I don’t see being displaced anytime soon.

    However, I’m not sure that the rise of Asia will bring with it a renaissance of conservative thought from the East. Yes, multiculturalism is an idea that most Asians laugh at, aside from a few best-assimilated ones in American higher education. But neither is Confucianism as much a driving force in Asia as some sinophiles might suppose. They’ve got their own form of feminism going on, though in more of a Randian way (women can go out in the world and do great things just as well) than in a Western give-me-free-stuff way. And becoming wealthy and mobile may itself change the culture for the worse. In my pessimistic moments I think that all the social pathologies of the West are really just the logical cultural results of high wealth and mobility, and the choice is rich dysfunction or poverty.

    Even if that was true, I’d still consider the rise of Asia a great thing, because much of it is simply making desperately poor people somewhat less poor. But I’m not certain that it would be a landslide for reaction – although it will probably give the lie to a few of the more blatantly idiotic Western ideas. I’m hoping – in an ideal world – that we’ll end up with Singapore writ large – free enterprise, strict meritocracy, and a paternalistic concern for social cohesion in all strata. The question of what we do end up with will be the story of the century.

    • Samson J. says:

      In my pessimistic moments I think that all the social pathologies of the West are really just the logical cultural results of high wealth and mobility, and the choice is rich dysfunction or poverty.

      I think that’s a more realistic than pessimistic hypothesis. Anyway, great post.

      I sometimes wonder to what extent (if any) China is actually fomenting Western multiculturalism. They *must* see that culture war is the best way of destroying us.

      • AC says:

        Nah, I think they’re more puzzled/amused than anything else. I doubt they’re sophisticated enough to do anything else. Even the American Left is mostly not fomenting multiculturalism out of a conscious desire to destroy the Right.

        And if you read Moldbug, you’ll understand why they’re terrified of USG’s unpredictable and unconstrained use of hard/soft power to topple nondemocratic regimes it doesn’t like. If I had to guess their thoughts, it would be “let’s keep to ourselves quietly and grow to a level where the State Department can’t do whatever it wants with us.” Even when China’s GDP surpasses the US, its military and diplomatic clout will still be far less, so I don’t see them actively messing with the US anytime soon. I like your thinking though.

  4. Nyk says:

    The indoctrination is from cradle to grave. Even 20 years ago, when I was a kid, I remember watching Captain Planet, which – upon rewatching – I have discovered to be a left-wing extremist cartoon.

    And now there’s the Assassin’s Creed series of video games, perfect for indoctrinating adolescents. Irony of ironies – I started playing Assassin’s Creed 2 after discovering Moldbug and having a new appreciation for the Italian Renaissance states which so closely resemble Moldbug’s Patchwork. This is what made me interested in history and exploring some great cities as they were in the past, when architecture and beauty mattered. (*spoilers ahead*)

    In Assassin’s Creed, there are 2 secret orders struggling for world domination using some lost pieces of advanced tech left behind by an advanced civ from prehistory (probably aliens; somehow I don’t think the writers will go down the more interesting route of another, more advanced species of the genus Homo living in prehistory and now extinct, as I would have hoped).

    One order are the Assassins, who believe in freedom, equality and the free will of people (sound familiar?). They are the more ‘diverse’ faction; the first Assassin you play, Altair, is a Syrian Arab (albeit an atheist one). The second is Ezio, an Italian who is best friends with Suleiman the Magnificent. The 3rd will be a Amerind-European hybrid fighting in America’s War of Independence (presumably on the side of that vile fiend, George Washington). The Assassins helped Lenin overthrow the oppressive Tsardom (I am not making this up; they imply Lenin and Mao are good, but Stalin is bad). They supported Al Gore against George W. Bush.

    The other order are the Templars. They believe in achieving Order and that humans are too stupid to accomplish anything on their own without guidance (unlike the Assassins, who support murder and chaos). Famous Templars include, among others: Alexander the Great, Qin Shi Huangdi, Jacques de Molay, Caligula, Stalin, Hitler, Henry Ford, Thomas Edison. They overthrew Mossadegh in Iran, a man of the people, to make way for the ‘authoritarian’ Mohammed Reza Pahlavi (Nothing is said about Khomeini, though). They supported George W. Bush in his bid to become POTUS.

    I guess that makes us Templars to a large degree. It’s sure good to be evil. I also find it funny how Breivik fell right into the leftists trap by self-describing as Templar, thus demonizing himself.

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