Random thought

If raising your kids in the suburbs makes them ignorant of important realities, should you raise them somewhere else?

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17 Responses to Random thought

  1. AC says:

    The affluent have nothing to fear, personally, from blacks. Everyone above a lower-class income can afford to insulate himself from blacks.

  2. Handle says:

    Raising your kids in a modern (sub)urban environment makes them ignorant of many important realities about the true nature of the world beyond their narrow scope of familiarity.

    So we construct certain controlled experiences so they can occasionally have at least some exposure to these things. We take them to zoos to see the charismatic macrofauna that once roamed the wild lands, or we take them on field trips to farms or factories to see the origins of their various consumptions. We don’t do a very good job of this, since we bias-filter and tend to over-sentimentalize, romanticize, and falsely nostalgize these experiences, but at least it’s something.

    I suppose you could do the same thing with your kids. When I was a naive, good-hearted, brainwashed child on a trip to Chicago with my father, we had to walk through a dicey part of downtown and were approached by a semi-menacing and haggard-looking black bum asking for a handout “because he was hungry and needed it to get some food”.

    My father, a very good and generous but also world-wise man, gave me a “now observe this and pay close attention” look, and told the man, “There’s a stand right over there, how about I buy you a hot dog?” His response was irate scoffing disbelief, literally in the, “I can’t believe you would dare to call my bluff instead of merely submit to my pushy intimidation, you ass!” and he angrily walked away from a free hotdog.

    Now I learned a lot in that formative moment. A worldview changing event that was fortunately a long way away from a literal “mugged by reality” situation. I think it had a lot to do with my age. When much worse things happen to committed progressives later in life (Yglesias and those mobbed reporters come to mind), it seems to have no impact whatsoever.

    As always, it’s important to get them while they’re young. If the truth can’t penetrate their segregated-reality bubbles prior to late adolescence, then it’s probably too late.

  3. I have raised my son so far from “the realities” that I am currently wrestling with exactly how and when to have The Talk. It is still years away, of course.

  4. josh says:

    yeah. Liberia. What a silly question.

    • Foseti says:

      Heh. Surely there’s something in between. But too much isolation leads to rather silly beliefs. Progressivism seems to thrive among those who are wonderfully insulated from reality.

  5. PA says:

    So what is your alternative – live in the city and send them to a private schools?

    Derb can make his daughter watch an hour of World Star Hip Hop swarm-stomp videos. This will cure her of suburban delusions.

  6. PA says:

    The tragedy that Derb describes, and that TS Eliot touched on — that new generations do not learn from the older ones — may now be obsolete. Because today, it’s all on video.

    • spandrell says:

      They still don’t learn. Denying reality is easy. There’s too many excuses to choose from.

      Kids are always uppity and refuse to listen to their elders, it’s a common psychological mechanism to assert power. In the old times this was remedied by beating them repeatedly into obedience. But you can’t do that anymore.

      My grandpa was an ignorant asshole yet my father would never openly dispute anything he said. Nor my mother to her father. My father is a learned man but my sister always yells at him openly with the same disdainful tone that Derbyshire’s daughter uses. I wasn’t very respectful either as a kid.

  7. ve says:

    “The affluent have nothing to fear, personally, from blacks. Everyone above a lower-class income can afford to insulate himself from blacks.”

    How has that worked out for affluent white South Africans?

  8. samsonsjawbone says:

    Homeschool, and make sure your kids read sufficient pre-1960s literature – stuff that matter-of-factly holds attitudes that everyone used to hold. At least, that is part of where my race-realism comes from: as a kid I loved early 20th-century British kids’ fiction, and it instilled a sense of pride in living in an Anglo nation. You don’t need to start them off on VDare or whatever.

  9. samsonsjawbone says:

    I agree, but I’m optimistic about the future. Things have a way of reversing themselves very unexpectedly, on a dime.

    Hell, I’m *excited* about the future. Anything might happen, and only people who doubt their own abilities should be scared.

  10. formerly no name says:

    “as a kid I loved early 20th-century British kids’ fiction”

    G.A. Henty ?
    http://plainhomeschool.blogspot.com/2010/02/ga-henty-books.html

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