What to do

There’s a lot of hand-wringing in these parts of the interwebz about what reactionaries should do.

I have no idea. I certainly have no grand plans to change the world. I like knowing what’s going on around me and I like open discussions – i.e. ones that are not choked to death by political correctness.

However, if I were to suggest a plan, I’d say tell the truth.

Start a wiki in which people can track changes on The Constitution so that the text actually describes how the document is currently interpreted.

Explain in simple terms how the Federal Reserve works. Shouldn’t the last two rounds of QE have actually reduced interest rates instead of just getting crappy assets off banks’ books?

Create an honest list of protected groups.

Create a list of people who are white and who are various shades of not white.

The possibilities are endless, and the results are often pretty entertaining.

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37 Responses to What to do

  1. You know what I think “we” should do, since you’ve linked to it before.

    What would your plan of action accomplish? What are the consequences, good and bad, of telling the truth? Are you trying to rally the plebes? If so, why?

    I mean, if you’re going to adopt a viewpoint that everyone around you thinks is evil, you might as well also make it a utilitarian one.

    • VXXC says:

      You might consider as a vehicle for DO …if one actually wishes to DO anything.. exactly that Mr Durand. Give democracy a second go – we are not governed by democracy – or as you put it rally the plebes. Plebes you see can still DO – that is ACT.

  2. SOBL1 says:

    I’m a firm supporter of a reactionary – “truth” type wiki. It would be like combining the social and race stuff of Sailer/Murray with the cathedral/government mechanics with the financial acumen and knowledge of Zero Hedge (Tyler, not the weirdos). Wikis are usually friendlier for sending links to expose others.

  3. anonymous says:

    I believe the phrase is “What is to be done?”

  4. asdf says:

    All of this “awarness” raising stuff is already out there.

    • Foseti says:

      Really. Where? Plus it’s all so serious

      • asdf says:

        I mean I could give you a link, probably multiple, for everything mentioned in your post.

        It’s not mainstream, but its not mainstream for the same reason you don’t talk about it at work. That’s not an awaress issue. Its a fear issue.

      • Foseti says:

        I’d love links. Especially the Constitution one.

      • asdf says:

        Try hundreds of years of law review. I used the study constitutional law. There are people that do this for a living.

        There are an endless number of blogs discussin the Fed and QE, plenty of which are critical.

        The PC stuff and race stuff is obvious to everyone. You can find it talked about on any number of blogs.

      • Foseti says:

        So what you’re saying is that no one has actually done what I’ve suggested? Instead of consulting something relatively short and plain-language-y you have to spend years in law school and reading law review articles – which all of course deny that they’re changing the constitution?

        That was pretty much my point.

      • asdf says:

        I didn’t spend years in law school. I picked it up casually. Just read the actual opinions and dissents for crying out loud. Scalia writes about how they are twisting the constitution in practically everything he says.

        If you point is that “reaction” isn’t moving forward because of a lack of “awarness” at a time where the internet has given more people more information then at any other time in history I think your crazy. Blaming a lack of results on “awarness” is liberal excuse making.

    • VXXC says:

      Inform the Public ? The public knows well enough. 66 million of them voted hoping to get a piece of the gangsters action. 65 Million showed up [including me] for some vague reason..I’m Irish I can plead hopeless romanticism. It’s a birthright.
      The problem isn’t that they’re not informed, they can see quite well what’s going on.

      The Great Question isn’t how do we tell them…the Great Question is what is to be done? And by who…to whom?
      The enemies of Liberty know what they want to do, and they know to WHOM they want to do it.

      As yet Liberties Partisans sulk, mourn their sorry fate to be born to such times – as if every generation slave or free didn’t face trials – and Liberty’s lovers wring their hands in agony.

      Do you see the enemies of Liberty and the lovers of POWER so agonized and conflicted? NO. They are jubilant and striding FORWARD with confidence, nay arrogance, visibly smug. So far not without reason – look at Liberty’s sorry partisans!

      I would recommend the Trials of the Free rather than the Slave. Not to mention their chances. Mourn without hope when you are in chains.

  5. VXXC says:

    DO? Denounce the heirs of New Deal Government as pervasively corrupt. First counsel our fellow citizens to shed romanticism and take a hard analytical look at our governance under the New Deal Constitution. By Constitution I mean descriptively as it exists, not prescriptively as the legacy document of 1789.

    We still have most of our Liberties, but democracy does not govern.

    That’s the New Deal. We have a paternalistic administrative State with powerful collectivist tools. As it has fallen into the hands of the corrupt and unworthy they administer and collect for their own benefit.

    Corruption is their bread and butter and their mortal weakness.

    Now this is if you wish a predicate…to DO…

  6. Recognize that the political, legal and economic system does not and will not respond to your needs. Assume the elite is hostile- as people have done throughout most of history- and plan accordingly. Flee from trash popular culture and adopt traditional mores. Accumulate human and physical capital. Make alliances with like-minded people.

  7. Handle says:

    Get together, socialize, drink, enjoy one another’s company and conversation, and try to cultivate the proper attitude.

    Also, write a book or two. One of those from one of us is bound to be very good (distinct, naturally, from “popular”). Propel some coherent ideas in organized long-form out of the blogz ghetto. No one has time, I know, I know. Try to make time.

  8. orende says:

    The most interesting question to me right now is how do we expand the number and/or influence of people who are even interested in this line of thought to begin with? To paraphrase asdf, very little reactionary analysis is truly new under the sun. There is something to be said for collecting it all onto one website, but I doubt that act alone will get much more traction in the real world for any of these ideas. Do people really have to discover the ideas for themselves? That seems awfully slow to me, but perhaps it’s the only way.

  9. spandrell says:

    The truth is out there indeed but it can be better presented. A wiki where all the information is made clear, well explained and systematised would be very useful.

    • Handle says:

      I get the feeling that a wiki would only be good for people who don’t need a wiki. Useful for insiders but not particularly inviting for outsides (and useful for what? avoiding repetition by giving people links?). There’s are Star Trek and Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and Sports, etc. wikis out there that are impressive compilations (in terms of sheer aggregate effort) beyond anything we could ever hope to achieve, but … does anybody but enthusiasts or the occasional outsider looking up something for reference care about these things?

      The big preliminary question is not “what do do?” but “what are you trying to achieve? What do you want to happen? Describe some end-states.” Do you want young people out there to get exposed to something and have that “The Sleeper Awakens! It’s all so many lies!” epiphany moment? Do you just want to have a better organized systematization of the ideas and references that float around these parts to help organize your own thinking and knowledge?

      Here’s my meta-want. I want to know what all the rest of you want. This is criticism-free brainstorming, don’t be afraid to be honest, bold, imaginative, and unrealistic. What are your dreams?

      “What to do?” tends to flow naturally from design to planning to execution, but it starts with vision.

      • spandrell says:

        Depth of knowledge and unity of purpose are negatively correlated.

        We are Church fathers without a Christ. They didn’t necessarily agree with each other, but allegiance to the charismatic figure worked as a sort of glue that furthered the movement. Of course it didn’t turn out the way any of them had wanted, it just stumbled across, taking ideas from all of them and testing them on the ground.

  10. Ian says:

    I imagine that the anti-fas/Anonymous/OWS types would f up a reactionary wiki faster than their edits could be moderated

  11. Samson J. says:

    What to do

    Work on your family and your marriage, maintain an involvement with your local community in some way (but don’t let this consume you), spend your scant leisure time enjoying life with hobbies instead of poring and fretting over reactionary blogs, and let the chips fall where they may. You can’t reasonably be asked for anything more.

    • asdf says:

      If that was enough, I don’t think any of us would be here.

      Many of us, even if we are doing well ourselves, are pained to see everything fall apart around us.

      • Samson J. says:

        I believe it is enough, having wrestled with the question of personal responsibility for some time.

        Look, I agree that probably most of us here are the sort of people who feel a weight of responsibility about the current state of affairs; we are high-functioning people who care about the world and the other people in it, to the point of feeling guilty that we’re “not doing enough” with our God-given abilities.

        But – the world’s fate is not in your hands. You can’t do everything and fix it all yourself. You can’t feel guilty or like you’re not “doing enough” because you aren’t out there leading the charge of the reactionaries while your family wonders why you’re always tired and cranky and spending time on blogs instead of with them.

        I’m not saying don’t do more, if you’ve got the time and the inclination. I’m saying understand your own place in the world, and don’t feel “guilty” or like you’ve failed in your responsibility if you aren’t doing more. Raising the next generation properly is quite enough for one man.

      • Samson J. says:

        There comes a point where you have to say to yourself, “This isn’t under my control.” It’s hard to do for those of us accustomed to succeeding and being in control.

      • asdf says:

        I’ve remarked in the past about my ancestors. They fought in the Irish independence movement (killing and risking their own lives). My grandfather fought strike breakers that wanted to crack their skulls. When my fathers union was on strike they offered him a management position in exchange for betraying the union. It would have made our lives a lot easier. My father was never of good health, and many conditions that threatened his job as a laborer wouldn’t have been a problem if he was in an office. He told them to shove it, because those were his people and he wouldn’t sell them out for personal gain. That meant some hard times for my family growing up, but it was the right thing to do.

        The kind of sacrifices we are debating here are so pathetic in contrast to what those men did its sadening. I mean we are sitting here debating about decisions that would slightly hinder our already successful careers. That’s where we draw the line over moral action?

        I was having lunch with some old co-workers the other day, and one of them is a middle aged guy. Pretty old fashioned very average family guy. Since the financial crisis he’s been reading all sorts of websites about the fed and the crisis. He talks about it at lunch. He’s pissed. He’s very successful, its not personal, he’s just pissed to see his society going to shit. People started to talk about one or another of the gun shootings and he said, “why do these people always kill innocent people. Why don’t they go shoot a senator or something. They deserve it.” Nobody corrected him. You look around the table and everyone understands that they are supposed to be offended but they just can’t be. They agree, they’ve always agreed, they just were always afraid to say it. They know that all of the stuff they complain about has a solution, and its justified, they just don’t have the balls to do it. That’s a table full of conservative upper middle class office drones.

        You could kill person you consider the most evil in the world if you set your mind to it. Don’t like the bankers that crashed the economy? Track down the CEO of a mortgage firm that authorized and got rich of it all. It might cost you your life or send you to jail forever, but it could be done. No one is untouchable. It may seem like killing one bad apple wouldn’t change things, but what if 100 people did the same? 1,000? 10,000? How many suicide bombings against elites would it take to make them realize that the status quo is untenable? Not as many as you think is my guess.

        The solution might not be perfect. And it might make things worse in the short run. But if the status quo is untenable you have to shake it up. That’s how my people got their independence. My ancestors kept killing Brits until they realized they have to give Ireland up. It was messy, it didn’t happen the way people wanted, but it never would have happened otherwise.

        But we aren’t even at that point. Nobody here, including me, is going to go out and kill anyone. We aren’t even going to do anything close to that. I’ve taken a paycut for my morals and that probably puts me above and beyond everyone here. And that’s not something I wear as a badge of honor. It would be pathetic to be proud of something like that. We all know what to do, we are just too pussy to do it.

    • fnn says:

      “…maintain an involvement with your local community in some way ”
      But make sure not to tell them what you really think.

      How about dissuading young people from joining the USG neo-Bolshevist military? If they really want to fight they should joining the Syrian govt army and help prevent the extinction of the oldest Christian communities in the world.

  12. fnn says:

    “Inner migration” seems to be the consensus.

    Here some Cathedral POS mocks the concept:
    http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2007/03/the_fallacy_of_.html

    …We catch an interesting glimpse of Fallada on his farm in 1935 in Martha Dodd’s book Through Embassy Eyes. Martha Dodd, the daughter of the US ambassador to Germany, and her American friend Mildred Harnack (the only American woman to be executed by the Nazis) paid a visit to Fallada and his family. Fallada was basking in the success of his most recent novel, which had already sold 20,000 copies and was in its third printing (most likely Wir hatten mal ein Kind – 1934). But Fallada’s mood turned sour when Martha (never one to hold back) asked him about the foreward to book, where the novelist praised the activities of the SA. Fallada became enraged and claimed that the “stupid Americans” had no concept of what it took to get published in Germany. “I saw the stamp of naked fear on a writer’s face – for the first time,” Martha recalled in her book.

    Fallada died of drug addiction after the war, and today his books gather dust in antiquariat bookstores. Books by Frank Thiess can only be found in research libraries. The writers of “Inner Emigration” are nothing more than a historical footnote. New editions of Thomas Mann’s books continue to be published in every language and he is celebrated around the world. Was anything of lasting value published in Germany between 1933 and 1945?

  13. anonymous says:

    @Samson “worry about your own marriage, family, etc and let the chips fall where they may”

    That might work for a time, but sooner or later somebody is going to have to figure out a long term solution… I see it as laughably improbable that I will accumulate legacy wealth in my lifetime, so I have to think about how I can change the game so that my grandkids have a fair (er) shot than white kids do today. Hell, I need to figure out how to make sure I even have grandkids. This is kind of disjointed but does anybody get what i’m saying? Unless you can get fuck-you money, focusing on yourself isn’t going to cut it, generationally speaking. Think about how badly the deck is stacked against us now, and think about how unimaginably worse it’s likely to be in 20, 30, 40 years if nothing is done.

    • SOBL1 says:

      Cosigned. I have a family. I can’t just think about enjoying the decline. I’m trying to have enough wealth to cross the ‘line’ if North America Brazil is what we are heading for, but I’d love to see a better alternative.

  14. spandrell says:

    I KNOW WHAT TO DO.
    Yep, I just had a flash. What we gotta do is… (wait for it)…….

    set up a Foundation in the edge of the Galaxy (world)!!

    Come on, it’s genius.

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