Randoms

Communism never died (HT).

Isegoria is reading George Fitzhugh.

Radish takes on colonialism.

– It might be nice if “hate speech” was criminalized like this, as long as it was done in a consistent manner.  In the almost decade I’ve lived in DC, I’ve heard a lot of racial slurs, and they’ve all been uttered by blacks.  At the Cherry Blossom Festival this week, I heard a drive-by “chink-ass motherfucker,” which is a nice way to welcome Chinese tourists to America.  No doubt they’ll go home and decide to adopt democracy.

– Vice on the Roma (HT).

– Nydwracu on Nelson Mandela.

Chuck on Gosnell: “If those mothers aren’t murderers, then how is Gosnell really a murderer?”  Indeed.

– Ron Unz on gay marriage.

– How government works: if Congressman can’t insider trade, the terrorists will win.

– I’ve said nothing about Margaret Thatcher.  I’ll say this, the lesson she teaches us is that conservatives can’t win in the long run.

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38 Responses to Randoms

  1. VXXC says:

    Foesti: The Terrorists Roll Call is referring to are also known as Red Staters, Flyover country, ‘Mericans/’Muricans. They are known to Non-Confederate-Whites as “The Confederacy” [Tomasky]. IOW White People. Who are of course the Terrorists to be feared.

  2. VXXC says:

    I wonder if we can refer to ourselves as Red Muricans.
    Terrorists, every last f*cking one of us.
    We should be wiped out.

  3. Samson J. says:

    Really interesting article on the Gypsies (“Roma”? Come on). I’m sort of fascinated by the Gypsies – not that my sample size of several dozen or so can be considered representative, but when you visit Paris or wherever it’s pretty hard not to come away thinking that Gypsy-dislike just might be justified.

    • isamu says:

      Remember, these are people who have an ocean between themselves and Gypsies trying to tell the locals how to deal with them. To even bring up “segregation” with respect to Gypsies is to show a complete loss of touch with reality. The gypsies are hyper-clannish group who’ve been self-segretaing probably since before they wandered out of India around AD 500. To desegrate them would require a full-out assault on *their* culture, not the Europeans surrounding them, and likely destroy their whole identity in the process.

      • josh says:

        “To desegrate them would require a full-out assault on *their* culture, not the Europeans surrounding them, and likely destroy their whole identity in the process.”

        As opposed to all those other example of forced desegregation.

    • Red says:

      Wow vice has really fallen. They went from reporting hard reality, to just another progressive lying rag. Watching you tube videos where gypsies film themselves stealing car batteries and then lighting the cars on fire for fun tells one pretty much everything you need to know about the “roma”.

      https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=gypies+stealing+&oq=gypies+stealing+&gs_l=youtube.3…19236.19236.0.19500.1.1.0.0.0.0.118.118.0j1.1.0…0.0…1ac.1.Iu6M_8W7tAE

      • Samson J. says:

        I don’t know anything about Vice, but I did get the feeling that some of the “quotations” were bogus.

        (“Slovakia is the worst nation for Roma. The government is a bunch of racists,” he said.)

    • ice hole says:

      A colleague of mine recently returned from a trip to Paris. He described it as being “like New York in the 1970s.” Graffiti everywhere, and turnstile jumpers overwhelming the Metro stations, where of course no one was even trying to detain them.

      He also said that at the Louvre, bands of gypsie kids swarm into the galleries, robbing as many people as they can before scattering before the onrushing security guards. The museum staff ultimately went on strike over this issue. He said that Paris — a city he used to love — is now not a city worth visiting.

      I and my family have been robbed by gypsies in Istanbul, and I can say without fear of political incorrectness that the reason why so many gypsies are stereotyped as thieves is because so many of them are in fact thieves. I guess this sucks for the ones who aren’t.

  4. The gypsies are hyper-clannish group who’ve been self-segretaing probably since before they wandered out of India around AD 500. To desegrate them would require a full-out assault on *their* culture, not the Europeans surrounding them, and likely destroy their whole identity in the process.

    Segregation is bad, and only white people can at fault for bad things. Therefore white people must be punished. If, mysteriously, segregation strangely continues, white people must be punished even more. And if segregation still continues, escalate the punishment further. To suggest that a minority might be at fault for the horrid sin of segregation is obviously racist.

  5. Dan says:

    “I’ve said nothing about Margaret Thatcher. I’ll say this, the lesson she teaches us is that conservatives can’t win in the long run.”

    Thatcher’s great wars included (1) on Soviet Communism, (2) tax rates that were near 100% at the top end (3) against labor unions and (4) against the Euro currency, (5) privatization of industries, (6) reduce the size of government spending in relation to the economy.

    All of these remain victories to this day. Keeping Britain out of a common currency turns out to have been a huge win in retrospect.

    The current biggest problems (Islamification of sections of Britain, huge out of wedlock childbearing, restrictions on free speech, decline in Christian religiosity of Britain) were not her battles as far as I know.

    • asdf says:

      At the end of the day she was a “right liberal”. All of her “reforms” were merely part of supporting the overall liberal push towards breaking down the community and making us into atomized consumers. And Britain’s so called economic renaissance came not from actually becoming competitive at making things, but from making London a bankster haven that extracted rents from all over the globe.

      I will give a hat tip to staying out of the Euro though.

      • Dan says:

        Communism murdered 100 million people in just a few decades, and is pretty much the most vile excrement ever defecated out of the human mind. That win must count for at least a little, no?

      • Foseti says:

        Only if you think that: 1) it was defeated; and 2) it was defeated by Thatcher/Reagan

      • Dan says:

        Oh, c’mon. It is pretty much ridiculous to compare the modern left to Communism in terms of what it actually was. Rivers, nay, oceans, of blood, no freedom of speech, no parental rights as the state programmed your children, all religion banned, massive theft of property by the state at all times, a nihilism about the future by thinking people everywhere, based on the assumption that it would all end in fire eventually. Our campuses were rotten with actual Communists.

        To say Reagan and Thatcher didn’t have a big role in Communism’s demise isn’t honest.

      • Foseti says:

        One could say the same of the Catholic Church, and yet it’s still the church.

      • RS says:

        > One could say the same

        How do you mean?

      • Nyk says:

        Communism was bad, but if I ask any working-class man on the street here (undisclosed Eastern European location) whether he wants communism to return, the answer would probably be “yes”. Working-class people like my grandparents could realistically plan to save their money and buy an apartment in 20-30 years or so. Nowadays, the low wages and housing prices ensure that plans like those are mostly daydreaming.

        And not to mention Roosh V.s theory that communism shielded E.European girls from feminism. Not sure if that is true, but I did notice it is harder to find beautiful girls/women in Western Europe.

      • Dan says:

        “One could say the same of the Catholic Church, and yet it’s still the church.”

        Um, no, the Catholic church did not kill 100 million people in a few decades. It didn’t kill a whole lot of people ever, actually. Foseti, you seem like a pretty delusional leftist, not to mention a rotten guy, when you make such a comparison.

      • Foseti says:

        Religious people are no fun to argue with.

        Is the Catholic Church not just a bit less violent today than it was a couple hundred years ago? Is that really a crazy point? How do you even know that I prefer the new Church to the old one?

        Lighten up.

      • Dan says:

        And I’m not even Catholic.

      • josh says:

        I read recently that about 3,000 people were killed during the entirety of the inquisition (a couple hundred years), about 2500 of which were in killed in Spain. Spain was only recently reconquered and had the new order had many legitimate threats coming from the conversos. Even still, only a small fraction of conversos were ever tried and the rest suffered no general ill treatment from the Church.

      • Foseti says:

        Well, that small a number clearly pales in comparison to the number of people the church has killed recently.

        I stand corrected.

      • josh says:

        I honestly don’t know what you are talking about.

      • josh says:

        Oh, now I get it. Never mind.

  6. Anonymous says:

    off topic but check the comments on this reason post:

    http://reason.com/blog/2013/04/07/the-meritocracy-as-we-know-it-mostly-wor#comment

    people talking moldbug! maybe this happens all the time at reason, but i sorely doubt it

  7. VXXC says:

    “Good men obey superior authority, the laws of God, of morality, and of their country; bad men love liberty and violate them.”

    So what to do when the Superior Authority is Mad and violates the laws of Good, God, any morality, and hates their country?

    What to do when the Emperor is Nero?

    And for this we substitute Action for Fraud? A Fraud that has bankrupted the nation and most of the World?

    Say no then to Fraud, NO to Nero, NO to Fraud over Action.

    Then ACT.

  8. VXXC says:

    Or you can blog I suppose.

  9. PA says:

    lesson she teaches us is that conservatives can’t win in the long run

    The “long run” hasn’t happened yet and Thatcher was not a conservative.

    Once the mainstream Right surrendered on the race/national question in the fifties or sixties, they were bound to keep losing because right-liberalism has no principled foundation.

  10. RS says:

    > Oh, c’mon. It is pretty much ridiculous to compare the modern left to Communism in terms of what it actually was. Rivers, nay, oceans, of blood, no freedom of speech, no parental rights as the state programmed your children, all religion banned, massive theft of property by the state at all times, a nihilism about the future by thinking people everywhere, based on the assumption that it would all end in fire eventually.

    And what have we got now? A nihilism about the future based on absence of community, nation, race, tradition — all of which partially transcend the mortality and innate partial shabbiness of the self in a natural way, also extending and amplifying its innate partial goodness and excellence.

    As PA and asdf are saying.

    I reached the same conclusions about Reagan and Thatcher long ago. We aren’t here on earth to sweat and quibble about 2.9% ‘growth’ vs 3.2% ‘growth’ in how much McMansion/ soda and fritos you can afford. Expensive objects can sometimes be used to actually enhance life ; I don’t scorn them. If wealth were always used that way it would count for somewhat more, though modest changes in wealth would still be modest.

    Now, economic life even as it actually exists certainly counts for something, so a major economic achievement like dodging the euro bullet is a high achievement. The other stuff is trivial.

    A lot of the extreme excesses of the USSR were stopped by Stalin. Not all, to be sure, whoa boy. The rest were stopped by his successor. Crushing USSR partly via a 1980s Thatcher/Reagan arms race had plenty of upsides, but IMO was a net negative. For one thing, Eastern Europe went through major TFR declines, most of which have not reversed well. This is a /huge/ disruption to these societies at the least, economically and beyond economically, and may spell the end of these peoples. Thus your point about nihilistic feelings based on the possibility it will all end anyway, is ironic on my perspective.

    Credit for banishing the pattern of Mao, who like Stalin may actually have accomplished some hugely important things in addition to spilling rivers of blood, seems to go to Deng and not to Thatcher/Reagan.

    There, I’m satisfied, I think I have succeeded in rendering PA and asdf’s points truly less succinct and readable.

    • RS says:

      > all of which partially transcend the mortality and innate partial shabbiness of the self in a natural way, also extending and amplifying its innate partial goodness and excellence.

      All of that is a little high flown, though I’m satisfied I truly believe it verbatim.

      But people need other, relatively superior people to tell them what to do and what to understand, in a hierarchy. Not chiefly through unadmixed coercion — you probably see what I mean. This is part of the problem with the atomization asdf protests. This pertains to high flown spiritual stuff, but also to brutely practical stuff, and stuff that’s somewhere intermediate.

      And those people existing in a hierarchy have to be more or less comprehensible to one another. Shared biological race is the single biggest reason why they would be, though there are also other reasons that are far from negligible.

      We encounter our relative superiors in life, and in books and culture — provided a sane and coherent culture exists.

      I grant that in a sense, you have largely obviated my point of view by saying that these were not Thatcher’s particular battles. But how valid is that sense? Not very, IMO. She had power, and extreme intelligence among other talents, so it was her natural duty to figure out what battles mattered.

    • vishmehr24 says:

      “A lot of the extreme excesses of the USSR were stopped by Stalin”

      “committed” rather than “stopped”.

  11. Dr. Slop says:

    Dan: “all religion banned [by Communists]” – didn’t work too well in Poland, where 90% of people still went to church, and a certain guy, John Paul somebody, emerged from the very powerful church there. The irony is that Christianity was a more vital force in Eastern Europe where it was restricted (not banned), than in Western Europe.

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